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	<title>Comments on: USMNT Fall in a 2-1 loss at Azteca: The American-Mexican Rivalry Reaches Boiling Point.</title>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexico gets the last laugh on Team Imperialist USA!
Take that bitches!! Mexico RULES!!</description>
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Take that bitches!! Mexico RULES!!</p>
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		<title>By: Muro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To be honest, the US-Mexico rivalry seems pretty overblown. No one really gives a toss about it except the Mexicans (probably because they’ve lost the only meaningful game to date, the WC 2002 knockout).&quot;

The only meaningful game? So an actual trophy (like Mexico&#039;s 5-0 Gold Cup) is less important than a game that ultimately counted for nothing, as both teams returned home emptyhanded? Isn&#039;t that a little disingenous and a huge cop out?

I do agree it&#039;s overblown though. Until the US wins some real silverware like a Confederations Cup and a World Cup (U-17) like Mexico has, the rest is meaningless. The only thing the U.S. has ever won, is the same thing they say doesn&#039;t mean much when they lose it 5-0 (Gold Cup), and of course Mexico has won 8 of those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To be honest, the US-Mexico rivalry seems pretty overblown. No one really gives a toss about it except the Mexicans (probably because they’ve lost the only meaningful game to date, the WC 2002 knockout).&#8221;</p>
<p>The only meaningful game? So an actual trophy (like Mexico&#8217;s 5-0 Gold Cup) is less important than a game that ultimately counted for nothing, as both teams returned home emptyhanded? Isn&#8217;t that a little disingenous and a huge cop out?</p>
<p>I do agree it&#8217;s overblown though. Until the US wins some real silverware like a Confederations Cup and a World Cup (U-17) like Mexico has, the rest is meaningless. The only thing the U.S. has ever won, is the same thing they say doesn&#8217;t mean much when they lose it 5-0 (Gold Cup), and of course Mexico has won 8 of those.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That vomit crap is all  made up. Typical Rogers racist propaganda. Did you see how he named the source? &quot;According to a neutral bystander.&quot; LOL! Some serious journalism there!

In other news... according to a neutral bystander, a US fan chopped his own head off and tossed it at poor Giovani Dos Santos.

Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That vomit crap is all  made up. Typical Rogers racist propaganda. Did you see how he named the source? &#8220;According to a neutral bystander.&#8221; LOL! Some serious journalism there!</p>
<p>In other news&#8230; according to a neutral bystander, a US fan chopped his own head off and tossed it at poor Giovani Dos Santos.</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: leodayz</title>
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		<dc:creator>leodayz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about &quot;while the altitude-accustomed Mexicans were running around with fresh legs. &quot;

5 out of 10! of the mexican starting line-up play either in Europe or in the US (Blanco, who BTW is 35 years old)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about &#8220;while the altitude-accustomed Mexicans were running around with fresh legs. &#8221;</p>
<p>5 out of 10! of the mexican starting line-up play either in Europe or in the US (Blanco, who BTW is 35 years old)</p>
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		<title>By: wllmhll</title>
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		<dc:creator>wllmhll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe we also set a comment record too at 50 comments.

plus one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe we also set a comment record too at 50 comments.</p>
<p>plus one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Blanchette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Blanchette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah now i see where the anglophile in you comes from ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah now i see where the anglophile in you comes from ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We play in the US. Damn, is our second home!! Haven&#039;t you seen how your stadiums rumble at the Mexicans cheering any time our team goes there? 

Really bro, don&#039;t worry. We&#039;ll continue to see you there!! =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We play in the US. Damn, is our second home!! Haven&#8217;t you seen how your stadiums rumble at the Mexicans cheering any time our team goes there? </p>
<p>Really bro, don&#8217;t worry. We&#8217;ll continue to see you there!! =)</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho-ly F***.  I know this makes blood boil but it&#039;s almost comical in a way.  Stay with me. 
First of all, throwing a cuppa vommy at someone is pretty nasty.  And possibly racist, and certainly worthy of being dismissed from the stadium.

But this writer&#039;s recap of the pristine American lungs being filled with acidic Mexican air makes me laugh.  Landycakes&#039; lungs take in the sweet sweet LA smog on a daily basis.  Sure, altitude affects people.  that&#039;s what I get drunksy off a half a glass of wine rather than my usual 2 on an airplane.  But it&#039;s not like once you cross the border the &quot;horrible mexican oxygen&quot; will attack American lungs. hahhaha.  Ah scheisse.  

Have national pride.  Support your team.  Let this stuff roll off of you.
Give racism a red card like my beloved Ryan Giggs.

Great support and feedback everyone.  We set readership records with this post.
It&#039;s wonderful to hear everyone&#039;s thoughts and it&#039;s nice when people can discuss without getting nasty.  

Please check back in with WDKF as we cover the world of football year-round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho-ly F***.  I know this makes blood boil but it&#8217;s almost comical in a way.  Stay with me.<br />
First of all, throwing a cuppa vommy at someone is pretty nasty.  And possibly racist, and certainly worthy of being dismissed from the stadium.</p>
<p>But this writer&#8217;s recap of the pristine American lungs being filled with acidic Mexican air makes me laugh.  Landycakes&#8217; lungs take in the sweet sweet LA smog on a daily basis.  Sure, altitude affects people.  that&#8217;s what I get drunksy off a half a glass of wine rather than my usual 2 on an airplane.  But it&#8217;s not like once you cross the border the &#8220;horrible mexican oxygen&#8221; will attack American lungs. hahhaha.  Ah scheisse.  </p>
<p>Have national pride.  Support your team.  Let this stuff roll off of you.<br />
Give racism a red card like my beloved Ryan Giggs.</p>
<p>Great support and feedback everyone.  We set readership records with this post.<br />
It&#8217;s wonderful to hear everyone&#8217;s thoughts and it&#8217;s nice when people can discuss without getting nasty.  </p>
<p>Please check back in with WDKF as we cover the world of football year-round.</p>
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		<title>By: aupamexi</title>
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		<dc:creator>aupamexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>copy pasted it, 

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AgHqW89btf.NU7mWZ14cjC8mw7YF?slug=ro-usamexico081209&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>copy pasted it, </p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AgHqW89btf.NU7mWZ14cjC8mw7YF?slug=ro-usamexico081209&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AgHqW89btf.NU7mWZ14cjC8mw7YF?slug=ro-usamexico081209&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns</a></p>
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		<title>By: aupamexi</title>
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		<dc:creator>aupamexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>martin rogers yahoo sports world soccer.... read the article he wrote , i couldnt finish it cus i was pissed off that yahoo, lets him write that shit! He is just tryin to start racial tension

read it, its here.....


MEXICO CITY – The man with the tri-colored mohawk took a swig of beer, stuck his fingers down his throat and vomited the mixture back into his cup. In the next seat another man, who was wearing a T-shirt with a cartoon drawing of the decapitated heads of Barack Obama and Landon Donovan, poured out what remained of the Corona beer he had been chugging and urinated into his cardboard drinks container.

Then, according to a neutral bystander who witnessed these disgusting acts, the pair stood on their seats, high-fived and hurled their vile concoctions in the direction of Donovan, the United States men’s national team star who was preparing to take a corner kick 15 yards away.


Welcome to the Estadio Azteca, where allegedly projecting bodily fluids at another human being is acceptable in the name of soccer fanaticism. Yet as unsavory as the above scene was, it was not the only or even the worst travesty that took place on Wednesday afternoon.

The Americans were the fall guys in this World Cup qualifier as Mexico once again made the most of what is perhaps the most unfair home advantage in international soccer by securing a 2-1 victory thanks to Miguel Sabah’s 81st-minute goal.

Landon Donovan Riot police try to protect USA’s Landon Donovan from flying cups.
(Donald Miralle/Getty Images)

Hostile crowds are to be expected in soccer. Acts of hooliganism provide the ugly face of a sport that calls itself the beautiful game. Mexican fans do go further than most national team supporters with boorish behavior that also included drowning out the American national anthem with boos. But even Donovan, who bore the brunt of the hatred of El Tri supporters just as he always does, refused to complain about the conduct of fans like the regurgitating and urinating ignoramuses in the stands.

Instead, it was the actions of referee Roberto Moreno that made sure the lasting memory of this game was not of an intriguing battle between two well-matched teams, but of a contest in which one side was effectively forced to play with its ankles tied together.

Moreno, an official from Panama, delivered the worst refereeing display I’ve seen in the last decade. Some of his decisions bordered on the farcical, with the Americans drawing four yellow cards to Mexico’s one.

“This is an intimidating place for teams to come,” U.S. goalkeeper Tim Howard said. “It makes it a lot harder when the most intimidated person in the stadium is the referee.

“Both teams went in hard [for the ball], but we always came out with the foul.”

There have been countless instances where bigger soccer nations have mysteriously benefited from bad decisions when they were struggling to qualify for World Cups. Conspiracy theories are likely to abound again after this result.

USA head coach Bob Bradley and his players knew it was futile to cry foul, but they were forced to sit through a painful flight home knowing they put in a fighting performance that probably deserved a draw. The fact Mexico is allowed to do whatever it likes on its own turf doesn’t help.

Already with the advantage of playing at altitude, the Mexicans can schedule games in the afternoon heat of a summer day and their fans can behave like animals without fear of sanction. Throw in a terrible referee and it becomes almost impossible to beat Mexico on home soil.

Yet when Charlie Davies clipped home a lovely shot after being set up by Donovan for an early 1-0 USA lead, an upset seemed to be in the cards. No American team had ever led Mexico at the Azteca, just like no U.S. squad had ever won there.

However, Mexico’s Israel Castro tied the game with a superb long-range strike midway through the first half, and from that moment on, the U.S. was in a fight for survival. The Mexicans dominated possession throughout, moving the ball around and taking the sap out of the legs of the American players. But the breakthrough would not come until the dying minutes – just as the USA started to believe it could hold on for the tie – with Sabah striking the decisive blow with a blast inside the penalty area that gave Howard no chance.

Despite the outcome, no one should be fooled into thinking Mexico now holds the upper hand in this rivalry. El Tri’s victory in the Gold Cup against a weakened American side was irrelevant. Last February, the Americans dominated the teams’ first CONCACAF Hexagonal qualifier in a 2-0 win in Columbus without any conditional advantage apart from chilly weather.

Toward the end on Wednesday, U.S. players’ lungs were bursting and their throats filled with acid, while the altitude-accustomed Mexicans were running around with fresh legs. Undoubtedly, Mexican supporters will now claim regional superiority. However, the only unbalanced thing about this rivalry is the actions of the fans, the unique advantage of Mexico’s home conditions and, on this day, a dreadful referee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>martin rogers yahoo sports world soccer&#8230;. read the article he wrote , i couldnt finish it cus i was pissed off that yahoo, lets him write that shit! He is just tryin to start racial tension</p>
<p>read it, its here&#8230;..</p>
<p>MEXICO CITY – The man with the tri-colored mohawk took a swig of beer, stuck his fingers down his throat and vomited the mixture back into his cup. In the next seat another man, who was wearing a T-shirt with a cartoon drawing of the decapitated heads of Barack Obama and Landon Donovan, poured out what remained of the Corona beer he had been chugging and urinated into his cardboard drinks container.</p>
<p>Then, according to a neutral bystander who witnessed these disgusting acts, the pair stood on their seats, high-fived and hurled their vile concoctions in the direction of Donovan, the United States men’s national team star who was preparing to take a corner kick 15 yards away.</p>
<p>Welcome to the Estadio Azteca, where allegedly projecting bodily fluids at another human being is acceptable in the name of soccer fanaticism. Yet as unsavory as the above scene was, it was not the only or even the worst travesty that took place on Wednesday afternoon.</p>
<p>The Americans were the fall guys in this World Cup qualifier as Mexico once again made the most of what is perhaps the most unfair home advantage in international soccer by securing a 2-1 victory thanks to Miguel Sabah’s 81st-minute goal.</p>
<p>Landon Donovan Riot police try to protect USA’s Landon Donovan from flying cups.<br />
(Donald Miralle/Getty Images)</p>
<p>Hostile crowds are to be expected in soccer. Acts of hooliganism provide the ugly face of a sport that calls itself the beautiful game. Mexican fans do go further than most national team supporters with boorish behavior that also included drowning out the American national anthem with boos. But even Donovan, who bore the brunt of the hatred of El Tri supporters just as he always does, refused to complain about the conduct of fans like the regurgitating and urinating ignoramuses in the stands.</p>
<p>Instead, it was the actions of referee Roberto Moreno that made sure the lasting memory of this game was not of an intriguing battle between two well-matched teams, but of a contest in which one side was effectively forced to play with its ankles tied together.</p>
<p>Moreno, an official from Panama, delivered the worst refereeing display I’ve seen in the last decade. Some of his decisions bordered on the farcical, with the Americans drawing four yellow cards to Mexico’s one.</p>
<p>“This is an intimidating place for teams to come,” U.S. goalkeeper Tim Howard said. “It makes it a lot harder when the most intimidated person in the stadium is the referee.</p>
<p>“Both teams went in hard [for the ball], but we always came out with the foul.”</p>
<p>There have been countless instances where bigger soccer nations have mysteriously benefited from bad decisions when they were struggling to qualify for World Cups. Conspiracy theories are likely to abound again after this result.</p>
<p>USA head coach Bob Bradley and his players knew it was futile to cry foul, but they were forced to sit through a painful flight home knowing they put in a fighting performance that probably deserved a draw. The fact Mexico is allowed to do whatever it likes on its own turf doesn’t help.</p>
<p>Already with the advantage of playing at altitude, the Mexicans can schedule games in the afternoon heat of a summer day and their fans can behave like animals without fear of sanction. Throw in a terrible referee and it becomes almost impossible to beat Mexico on home soil.</p>
<p>Yet when Charlie Davies clipped home a lovely shot after being set up by Donovan for an early 1-0 USA lead, an upset seemed to be in the cards. No American team had ever led Mexico at the Azteca, just like no U.S. squad had ever won there.</p>
<p>However, Mexico’s Israel Castro tied the game with a superb long-range strike midway through the first half, and from that moment on, the U.S. was in a fight for survival. The Mexicans dominated possession throughout, moving the ball around and taking the sap out of the legs of the American players. But the breakthrough would not come until the dying minutes – just as the USA started to believe it could hold on for the tie – with Sabah striking the decisive blow with a blast inside the penalty area that gave Howard no chance.</p>
<p>Despite the outcome, no one should be fooled into thinking Mexico now holds the upper hand in this rivalry. El Tri’s victory in the Gold Cup against a weakened American side was irrelevant. Last February, the Americans dominated the teams’ first CONCACAF Hexagonal qualifier in a 2-0 win in Columbus without any conditional advantage apart from chilly weather.</p>
<p>Toward the end on Wednesday, U.S. players’ lungs were bursting and their throats filled with acid, while the altitude-accustomed Mexicans were running around with fresh legs. Undoubtedly, Mexican supporters will now claim regional superiority. However, the only unbalanced thing about this rivalry is the actions of the fans, the unique advantage of Mexico’s home conditions and, on this day, a dreadful referee.</p>
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		<title>By: aupamexi</title>
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		<dc:creator>aupamexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youre right also, only what.... 50 years ago we were segregated, in the southwest mexican &amp; blacks had it the same, but they would deport us even if we were legal,,,, so we do still have issues on race.. but to be honestly its US fans who do the most on the internet. go on yahoo world soccer, bigsoccer.com, fox sports.... see for yourself.

 i&#039;m a Mexican-Basque, thats were the Aupa comes from... Euskara &quot;the oldest language to mankind&quot;.... as a Basque bloodied person i put up with crap from Spaniards too, who call us terrorists and cavemen, because some basques want to have our nation back....

You are non-racist because you grew up was a outsider, and you knew what it is to be the minority....and you were exposed to other cultures... usually its the American way or no way in this country...

Everyone loves mexican food, the local skinheads here in my city even go and buy  mex food, all tattooed up with nazi swastikas. but they are all talk or else they wont be there.

I&#039;m engaged  to a German-American girl, her family is from Germany...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youre right also, only what&#8230;. 50 years ago we were segregated, in the southwest mexican &amp; blacks had it the same, but they would deport us even if we were legal,,,, so we do still have issues on race.. but to be honestly its US fans who do the most on the internet. go on yahoo world soccer, bigsoccer.com, fox sports&#8230;. see for yourself.</p>
<p> i&#8217;m a Mexican-Basque, thats were the Aupa comes from&#8230; Euskara &#8220;the oldest language to mankind&#8221;&#8230;. as a Basque bloodied person i put up with crap from Spaniards too, who call us terrorists and cavemen, because some basques want to have our nation back&#8230;.</p>
<p>You are non-racist because you grew up was a outsider, and you knew what it is to be the minority&#8230;.and you were exposed to other cultures&#8230; usually its the American way or no way in this country&#8230;</p>
<p>Everyone loves mexican food, the local skinheads here in my city even go and buy  mex food, all tattooed up with nazi swastikas. but they are all talk or else they wont be there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m engaged  to a German-American girl, her family is from Germany&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tacarino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tacarino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing it up. Glad our paper wasn&#039;t wrong.</description>
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		<title>By: JJ87</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great report, nice to see someone has the balls to bring up the racist tension in these games publicly.

Mexico did have a better strategy yesterday, and while they weren&#039;t as effective as I would&#039;ve liked when attacking, they did play just as they needed to play. I didn&#039;t decide anything yet, but it was crucial to win this game, for a variety of reasons.

On Mexico playing dirty, I am ashamed to see that not only us, but pretty much everyone at CONCACAF plays dirty. We end up seeing a whole variety of cheap tricks to either make time, fool the referee (who is almost always biased in favor of the locals), unadvertedly harming your opponent, etcetera. 

Yes, mexican players were desperate and yes, US players were faking fouls. I know it shouldn&#039;t be the way, but even in these modern soccer times, it&#039;s a logical reaction. We were desperate because we didn&#039;t capitalize our sheer dominance in the field (let&#039;s not forget, we were 10 minutes away from ending only in a tie), US was trying to keep the score tied.

As a mexican fan, I can say that although I&#039;m happy for the win, the whole game was over-blown for several experiences we&#039;re having in the country. Had we lost, it didn&#039;t mean we were out of the World Cup. We won, and it doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;re in either. But it was a relief to have people smiling again.

What worries me is the coverage US media is giving to the result. I would expect it from our mexican media, which is biased and average at best. But portraying our team, as someone said above, like &quot;dogs&quot; or &quot;sub-human&quot;, is just not up to the American sports media standards. The rivalry has, for a while now, shifted from just a sportsman-like rivalry to something entirely different.

Onyewu has earned my full respect. Good deffensive play by the US, I did expect more from the attack. The &quot;We Can Fly&quot; project has definitely had results thus far. We&#039;ll see you guys in the World Cup, and let&#039;s see if there&#039;s a chance for our rematch!

Great blog, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great report, nice to see someone has the balls to bring up the racist tension in these games publicly.</p>
<p>Mexico did have a better strategy yesterday, and while they weren&#8217;t as effective as I would&#8217;ve liked when attacking, they did play just as they needed to play. I didn&#8217;t decide anything yet, but it was crucial to win this game, for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>On Mexico playing dirty, I am ashamed to see that not only us, but pretty much everyone at CONCACAF plays dirty. We end up seeing a whole variety of cheap tricks to either make time, fool the referee (who is almost always biased in favor of the locals), unadvertedly harming your opponent, etcetera. </p>
<p>Yes, mexican players were desperate and yes, US players were faking fouls. I know it shouldn&#8217;t be the way, but even in these modern soccer times, it&#8217;s a logical reaction. We were desperate because we didn&#8217;t capitalize our sheer dominance in the field (let&#8217;s not forget, we were 10 minutes away from ending only in a tie), US was trying to keep the score tied.</p>
<p>As a mexican fan, I can say that although I&#8217;m happy for the win, the whole game was over-blown for several experiences we&#8217;re having in the country. Had we lost, it didn&#8217;t mean we were out of the World Cup. We won, and it doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re in either. But it was a relief to have people smiling again.</p>
<p>What worries me is the coverage US media is giving to the result. I would expect it from our mexican media, which is biased and average at best. But portraying our team, as someone said above, like &#8220;dogs&#8221; or &#8220;sub-human&#8221;, is just not up to the American sports media standards. The rivalry has, for a while now, shifted from just a sportsman-like rivalry to something entirely different.</p>
<p>Onyewu has earned my full respect. Good deffensive play by the US, I did expect more from the attack. The &#8220;We Can Fly&#8221; project has definitely had results thus far. We&#8217;ll see you guys in the World Cup, and let&#8217;s see if there&#8217;s a chance for our rematch!</p>
<p>Great blog, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: leodayz</title>
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		<dc:creator>leodayz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!!! GREAT POST AUPAMEXI!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN!!! GREAT POST AUPAMEXI!!!</p>
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		<title>By: leodayz</title>
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		<dc:creator>leodayz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Mexican, I was really embarrassed and pissed off about the people in the stadium throwing stuff to Donovan. I really find that beyond the limits.

BUT, we should be careful of using words as &quot;attack&quot; and &quot;violence&quot;, I truly believe, that no one in the stadium would have actually harm Donovan nor any of the US players or fans. I mean, it is not like they were throwing glass bottles or something.

Bottom line, very embarrassing to have SOME fellow Mexicans like those, but it was definitively not an attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Mexican, I was really embarrassed and pissed off about the people in the stadium throwing stuff to Donovan. I really find that beyond the limits.</p>
<p>BUT, we should be careful of using words as &#8220;attack&#8221; and &#8220;violence&#8221;, I truly believe, that no one in the stadium would have actually harm Donovan nor any of the US players or fans. I mean, it is not like they were throwing glass bottles or something.</p>
<p>Bottom line, very embarrassing to have SOME fellow Mexicans like those, but it was definitively not an attack.</p>
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